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« on: July 13, 2008, 05:37:06 pm »
I figured i could make one for the Three Kingdoms thread. Here just ask What If questions. like what if Cao Cao lost at Guan Du
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2008, 08:32:54 pm »
A land of Yuan Banners, well at least for 3 years.
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2008, 08:41:11 pm »
To add to that, Scholar. What if yuan shao lived longer?, He was not much older than cao cao.
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2008, 11:53:59 pm »
Quote from: Ma San on July 13, 2008, 08:41:11 pm
To add to that, Scholar. What if yuan shao lived longer?, He was not much older than cao cao.
What dp you mean if he lived longer? are you talking about after he won Guan Du? If so, he'd probably destroy Cao Cao and then have no problem wiping out the rest of the forces.
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2008, 03:34:02 am »
Well, even if he wipe out Cao Cao's army, his kingdom will not last long.
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2008, 12:46:31 pm »
Quote from: EmperorCQX on July 16, 2008, 03:34:02 am
Well, even if he wipe out Cao Cao's army, his kingdom will not last long.
Hmm...really? You think he wouldn't be able to overthrow Ma Teng, Zhang Lu, and WU and SHU?
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2008, 10:56:01 pm »
Not with how quickly he was mentally disintegrating and the squbbling of his sons. You also forget Liu Biao and it was Liu Zhang rather then Shu 
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2008, 11:55:14 pm »
Quote from: Nakasonedevil on July 16, 2008, 12:46:31 pm
Hmm...really? You think he wouldn't be able to overthrow Ma Teng, Zhang Lu, and WU and SHU?
Not only what Ma Su said, but also, you have to remember that Cao Cao did historically win, so some would say that he was a better commander.  Without getting into a discussion directly comparing the two, remember that Cao Cao, who did win, couldn't beat everyone else... so what advantage does Yuan Shao have that would allow him to do what Cao Cao couldn't?
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2008, 07:27:27 pm »
...I haven't any idea. I forgot he was mentally disinigrating. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2008, 10:40:18 am »
To carry on

What IF Zhuge Liang would have won the battle of Wu Zhang Plains?
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2008, 01:51:34 pm »
Quote from: sunjian on July 18, 2008, 10:40:18 am
To carry on

What IF Zhuge Liang would have won the battle of Wu Zhang Plains?

He'd have a chance of conquering Chang An, but any momentum or victory he'd gain would be temporary, as reinforcements from the capital would come in and push him right out again, or he'd run short on food and have to retreat.
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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2008, 10:07:15 am »
What if Liu Bei had been assassinated in Jingzhou(?)?
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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2008, 05:34:29 am »
What are you referring to?  Are you referring to him being assassinated by Cao Cao during Chang Ban, or by Sun Quan during the battle of Yi Ling?

If Cao Cao did it, there would be no shu and Cao Cao would most likely have easily taken Cheng Du, and thus most likely would have conquered Wu within his lifetime.

If Sun Quan did it, there would have been no reconciliation between Shu and Wu, and Wei would have picked at the bones of their rivalry pulling the strings of their conflict.
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2008, 09:53:51 am »
I mean when he escaped across the river on his hex marked horse.

A better 'what if' would probably be 'What if Liu Bei had refused to accept the horse after learning the mark would bring bad luck?'
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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2008, 10:16:26 am »
Then My buddy cai mao, would kill that Long eared fool.

What If Dong Zhou was never killed by lu bu, And lu bu stayed loyal.
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