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« on: February 22, 2008, 01:37:30 pm »

Alright I finally got a chance to play DW 6. I was trepiditious at first, but overall I like it. So I got to thinking what features they could add or change to the Empires mod.
One thing I would like to see is taking prisoners. There would be various options about what you could do with prisoners rather than just executing or releasing. Releasing! Why can't I ransom them off for money, trade officers, or release to form an alliance? Also, it would be less frustrating to lose officers in battle if you could buy them back or attempt a battle to win them back. It would really add a new dynamic to the game. Of course you could still always execute them, but maybe have a feature where constant execution of enemies worsens your relations with that force.
Loyalty. The friendship system in SWE was nice but it could be improved upon. A loyalty gimic could be used to gauge how likely an officer will betray you or leave your force. I find it frustrating when I go into battle only to discover that the officer I had planned to use is no longer a part of my force, and without any notification even. Whats with that.
Titles. The cutscenes where characters are awarded titles are nice, but you have no control over who gets to be in the scene. I imagine that there is a formula at work, but at least it should be available from the getgo so you can have the opprotunity to try and view the cutscenes you want. Assigning titles is one way to do this. When it comes time to award the five great generals you can pick them yourself. The same could be done with other factors as well such as commander and strategist, possibly even spouse. Your supposed to be the ruler so it makes sense that you can pick those things. This could be tied into loyalty as well as chosen officers will never switch sides, leave, or betray you.
I have some other ideas but I haven't completely worked them out yet.
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2008, 01:50:39 pm »

good ideas there bt but long time before we get an announcement if we do anyway dw6 aint even in uk yet lol
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2008, 03:46:48 pm »

Personally, DW6 Empires can't come soon enough. I loved DW5 Empires, thought the new single player mode was top notch. On hard/chaos you actually had to think and plan everything out constantly.

I hope they can make the can make the empire mode 2 players, like as opposing forces, not the same team.

Even more I want them to give us online free modes! But sigh, I doubt that will happen.
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2008, 04:09:01 pm »

yeah and give the game same mechanics as DW6 meaning how difficulty on normal is still challengeing also the graphics, renbu for all the main characters get diffrent renbus and add a feature to CAW that u get to choose parts of others renbus to create your own unique one meaning zhou yuns running triangle attack guan yu's regular triangle attacks as long as they keep it for simular weapons (pike,spear,halberd.....)or they give you 10 new renbus all ready made none that are out now(asking for way to much laugh) and make jin empire (simas empire)in this you change the outcome like cao cao is strong then sima yi betrays while shu is very weak and so is wu then you choose one of the four(shu,wu,wei,or sima rebel but later at the end turns to jin)oh and the characters who died arent in this so shu leader is either liu beis son or zhuge liangs son weis leader  would be cao pi wu would be sun quans son and rebel would be sima yi then when he dies his son because he would be old when you start.Also they should make it like one empire story leads to the jin,shu,wei,wu battle so if you saved guan yu and guan ping at fan castle then they would be in the jin,shu,wei,wu battles for shu or other forces a la guan yu and cao cao again
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2008, 09:46:41 pm »

i hope it better than DW5 & SW2 with choose a color of your army,the gender,more historical event and one thing i hope that C.A.W is much better with characters,clothing,voices and you could also use the skills like Taunt,Charge,Fire(it will cut anyone life in half like in Destiny Mode). Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2008, 10:08:36 pm »

I can't wait for empires. A few things I would suggest..
Create an officer is a must, for me. 

I like the idea of choosing a spouse, however, I know some of us won't be happy, because I highly doubt they'd include the ability to have same-gender couples.

One gripe I've had when comparing the Empires games to the normal games, is level size and length. In a nomral warriors game, like DW5, you could spend maybe 15 minutes on a level with 500 or so KO count if you play at a leisurely pace. in empires, it was almost an accomplishment to eek out a KO count of 500 and taking 10 minutes on a level was almost unheard of. So, I would suggest maybe more/longer lasting bases, or more fodder to fight for those corpse junkies out there.

I also like the ideas of loyalty. Making certain officers much more resilliant against ploys and tactics, or simply independant thoughts of rebellion. I'd like to be able to assign titles too, because like Blue Tiger says, you are, after all, the general, the leader, the boss.

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  Ohh yes, I forgot! I definately would like to be able to choose the color for my force, and the gender of basic soldiers. Or at least ones in my unit.  I love deciding little details, even if they have no impact on the game. hehe, as a friend of mine joked, I spent 5 hours creating my character in another game, then deleted it and started over because I didn't like the haior color I chose.
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2008, 10:18:16 pm »

yea i could choose my own Stratagist,Grand Commander and Five Grand General and could get married like SW2:Empire,Duels,and if you play with a female characters they bcome Empress. Wink 
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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2008, 10:20:39 pm »

to add to this they should have an intellegence diffrence like battle intelligence and tactical intelligence like lu bu would have a battle intelligence but no tactical so it would be 100 for BI and say 20 for Ti this would make it harder like if you have shu vs wei and your wei you could have sima yi make a plan but the computer zhuge liang would conter it and so on
also they should have a mode where the han trys to regain control after wu,wei,and shu are around this would be fun
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2008, 11:48:27 pm »

yea but it b nice to completely take control of your army. Wink
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2008, 12:17:51 pm »

Great ideas! I would like to see Jin as a force, though at tat point their wouldn't be much competition as the other forces greatest heroes were either dead or really old. Liu Chan was known as a weak leader, and Wu had become to complacent and peaceful. Its no surprise Jin won out historicaly.
I agree that they need more customization for your original forces. I would go with having blue as my flag color.(bet you didn't see that coming)
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2008, 12:24:15 pm »

I'm a fan of leaving the voice overs in japanese with English subtitles. And yes, blue all the wei! Er.. Way! Hehehe.
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2008, 01:51:35 pm »

I'm opposed to another empires period, DW6 is already half- with only 17 musuo modes, it's an outrage for koei to charge us more for what they should have had in the first place. The new games are already $10 more expensive, the Blu-Ray has a capacity of 25gb single layer and 50gb dual layers. They can fit empires and the regular series in one. A great game will sell more then two mediocre games(ex. A FF game probably sold more and earned more from one single game then Koei did with a DW, a XL, and an Empires combined). As for those of you about to say the 360 doesn't have Blu-Ray, then my response is how many people with a 360 even buy DW, DW is a Playstation series, DW-Playstation, DW2-PS2, DW3-PS2, DW4-PS2, and then Koei tried to expand by going on Xbox which I'd say no true fan actually plays on.
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2008, 01:53:25 pm »

yeah well dont forget its ps3 soooo..
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2008, 02:22:43 pm »

Um.. Yeah they also could have sold DW5+Empires as a bundle, but they didn't.. it's not about disk space.
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2008, 05:32:09 pm »

Great ideas! I would like to see Jin as a force, though at tat point their wouldn't be much competition as the other forces greatest heroes were either dead or really old. Liu Chan was known as a weak leader, and Wu had become to complacent and peaceful. Its no surprise Jin won out historicaly.
I agree that they need more customization for your original forces. I would go with having blue as my flag color.(bet you didn't see that coming)
i like the idea to choose the color of your flag,but mine will be black bcause it the only color that no army has,and female soldiers. Smiley
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