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Gan Ning92
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August 19, 2009, 03:27:09 am »
gengis khan ruled over it all because of horsebow men and he slaughtered anyone in his way
wouldn't make a good story line plus wouldn't be able to be like kessen 2 or 1 hmm
i think a china vs japan like wei vs samurai like how warriors orichi 1 and 2 are with the best parts of kessen 2 and 3 would be sweet
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August 26, 2009, 09:08:22 pm »
How would Genghis Khan NOT be a good idea? The guy created the largest land empire ever. He united the tribes of Mongolia (which had been constantly warring with eachother) when his father was assassinated and chased the perpetrators all the way into Persia to Samarquand, and on his way there he burned and pillaged all of the modern day (insert name here)-istan countries. Not to mention he conquered Russia, China, Persia, and Hungary. The only thing that kept his armies from crushing all of Europe was his death. After he died his territory was spilt into 4: Kublai Khan in China, Tamerlane (sp) in Persia, Ogadai Khan in Russia, and i forgot who he left in charge of mongolia...
There could be a lot of what if scenarios, like what if a typhoon didnt destroy the ships that were going to land in Japan, and what if the Mongolian advance wasnt stopped in Egypt by the Mamelukes, or what if Genghis didnt die and the Mongolian advance goes deeper into Europe?
There is potential for characters as well. Tamerlane is just the shortened version of Timur the Lame, so you could just have a guy who is awesome on the battle field even though he is injured. Ogadai was Genghis's unwilling heir to the Golden Horde. I'm sure you could fill in with some Russian, Chinese, and Persian defectors (there were lots of them, thats how the Mongolians got so large, they used the whole 'join us or die' approach when they were conquering the world) and of course you have Kublai Khan.
Kessen 4 should definitely be about Genghis. I mean, koei has done china and japan long enough, time for some MONGOL POWER
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Gan Ning92
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August 27, 2009, 09:36:14 am »
that is why it wouldn't be good he is too powerful no one likes a one sided battle
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September 01, 2009, 06:14:59 pm »
The Ghengis Khan idea is a good one but the game would mostly be fictional unless it was rated M, hahahah.
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September 05, 2009, 01:32:05 pm »
Quote from: Gan Ning92 on August 19, 2009, 03:27:09 am
gengis khan ruled over it all because of horsebow men and he slaughtered anyone in his way
wouldn't make a good story line plus wouldn't be able to be like kessen 2 or 1 hmm
i think a china vs japan like wei vs samurai like how warriors orichi 1 and 2 are with the best parts of kessen 2 and 3 would be sweet
Who the hell would want another Warrior Orochi??? This fantasy BS have nothing to do with Koei History games. it's time for Koei to bring back game like in the old day that actuaclly have some history lesson and real value so we can actually learn something while we play. Dynasty Warriors 6 got to a point where it's even ridiculous to play. So much fantasy it's jkust so boring. where's the history lesson in that.
uhhh Genghis Khan slaughter everyone in his way?? so what about your favorite hero Gan Ning or any other hero, I'm sure they all killed to get what they want.
Koei games used to talk history but now it's just some BS fantasy
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September 13, 2009, 08:20:44 am »
Kessen 4 characters should be the same from Kessen 1
i love the ishida vs tokugawa
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November 11, 2009, 02:20:39 pm »
First off, i love koei games. Big up to the company for putting out my favorite games.
Basically, my idea would be raise alot of controversery but this is a game. My idea would be Japan and Korea setting off a whole new stage of history and battles. It is to my understanding that there was lots of war between the two countries and still a bitter taste in the mouth exists. So have it to where both countries duke it out in a duel.
Also, some other ideas would be bringing back resources like silk,jewels, etc like on Genghis Khan. That kind of gave some incentive as to pick certain countries to raid. Anyway that's my two cents. Thanks
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December 21, 2009, 08:01:15 pm »
yea i think kessen 4 should either be about hedeyoshis rise to power from late Nobunaga to the begining of the rule of hedeyoshi or make it like kessen 2 again exept make it start with the yellow turban rebellion and make it so ur able to choose between all three kingdoms like for wu u could make it like start with sunjian go through yellow turban rebellion hu lao gate, battle of jing then make it sun ce 1 or two random battles for him then battle for wu teretory then sun quan make his xiakou chi bi he fei yi ling and etc until the end of the game
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February 24, 2010, 05:08:49 pm »
#1.) Blood and Guts, need to see that in duels and battles, realism is great.
#2.) PS3 capcities, are great! So think a cross between Romance 11, 10 and 9 (All the neat and cool features and the classic ones as well), KESSEN 2 & 3 with the concepts of first hand army control and in reference to KESSEN 2 fantastic plot and story went on for ever! Drama met War Epic at rating of 9.9/10 not to mention the capability of going control one of the generals or commanders yourself and as well command the army from eagle eye view too. AND Again in reference to First Person Control of Generals and Commanders, Dynasty Warriors/Samurai Warrriors Combative control, although Koei, I was turned off to the whole crazy weapons and huge and impractical armour and so on. I liked the realism you brought, what happened?
#3.)All the little things in a game are just as great as the big climatic features of a game. In Dynasty Warriors 5 Empires, there was a Mode where I would start off as a lowely Sergent with 2 or 3 soldiers, then i got to climb the ranks, SHOULD OF RAN WITH THAT CONCEPT! Brilliant! Again realism and chanllenging to experience a world from our actual world history and have realistic experience with the kiddy larger-the-life armour and weapons like I though some DW5 was too much but really let loose and I tell ya, its like a hott chic letting a loud smelly wet one rip during sex...yeah major theorpy time.
Your games are great just don't lose yourselfs in the Fantasy World, your best most attractive quality was realism and realistic war and drama and storylines and plots and gameplay every, like the marriage thing you have in ROTKXI, love it, explore that some more!
For the last big bang, Koei! I know my input is late, but please I plead, take this into consideration, Combine the best of Kessen 2 & 3, ROTK 9-11, AND the Aspects of DW4-6 (Including Extreme Versions) and the Latter SW (Including Extreme Versions) and put them together into some of a 2 or 3 even 4 Piece Game Set and Really Just destroy every concept of what we thing is the best of your work so far and give us something that we can play years after its release that my daughter when she is old can get the same rush from taking over a whole province after a week of game play because it was that challenging of a war game and feel like i could of really been Sun Ce opponent or I could of routed Zhou Yu at Chi Bi and be so tired and exsusted from playing but just can't stop playing...if you can do that I will throw away every other video game, PC or Concole even delete my phone games, the board games gone, finished with paper rock sicisors and play your game till i don't even have to read the 2 books anymore or watch any more movies about the Three Kingdoms of China. Love you guys, lets change the gaming world and make history!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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March 30, 2010, 08:38:46 am »
There not going to make Kessen 4 they don't care.
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April 10, 2010, 09:17:42 pm »
Quote from: Emil246 on March 30, 2010, 08:38:46 am
There not going to make Kessen 4 they don't care.
I hope you r wrong about that
ps how about Thai vs Burmese
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Shogun 144
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May 31, 2010, 05:25:23 am »
I think that KOEI would do a great job with a game based on the Gempei War, both as a RTK/NA style game and as a Kessen style game. Think about it, the Gempei War has many of the elements present in the ROTK and the various folk stories could all be explored. Another thing to consider is that the Gempei War would be a fresh start. It would give KOEI a clean slate from which to build a new franchise. Plus they have already made Yoshitsune and Kiyomori characters for the Orochi-verse, so KOEI would be willing. I hope.
For a Kessen style title I would like to see a game where you first play from the perspective of the hero-general Minamoto Yoshitsune starting with the meeting of Yoshitsune, Yoritomo, and Noriyori in Kyoto in 1180 for the first time through the events of the Gempei War and ending with the tragic Battle of Koromo River. Then the player should play from the perspective of Taira no Munemori, starting with the events surrounding the death of his father (Taira no Kiyomori) in 1181 and from there take a path of alternate history ending in Taira victory. Though perhaps an alternate Yoshitsune path would be better. One in which he does not die, though whether by victory over Yoritomo or by surviving long enough for the brothers to reconcile I am not sure. Either would work. Also in consideration should be the option to play as Yoritomo. Think about it, he would be the villain for the second half of the game and it would be great to get inside his head. Perhaps the idea should be to combine my ideas for a Taira storyline with this one. Make it like the original Kessen, start off as the Taira and give the player the choice of whether gaining victory with the Taira or losing battles to shift over to a Yoritomo story line. That would be awesome, I think.
I find the whole period (Late Heian-Kamakura) to be fascinating and I would love to see a game about it.
As for controls:
Kessen III had some great ideas and the ability to control your general like that was good. It was better realized than the control scheme of Kessen II, though the Kessen II system has its good points. Unfortunately it also seems too arcade-y for a Kessen game and feels more like a beat-em-up then a strategy game. A good Kessen IV I believe should go back to the original control scheme with some refined elements of Kessen II. More Strategy, More Tactics, Less Arcade.
As for costumes:
Well as long as it does not go near the kind of fantasy seen in STRIKEFORCE I don't really see a problem. Splendid costumes have always been a trademark of the Kessen series and the original and Kessen III had the best ones, I think. Cool, but not completely out of the ball-park. The costumes of Kessen II did push it a little, but in a game that whacky it enhanced the atmosphere.
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July 12, 2010, 10:47:01 pm »
I think they should make a game with hedeyoshi since they already did a nobunaga and ieyasu one i think its only fair to make a game of hedeyoshi from honnoji till odawara or somthin like that
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August 16, 2010, 02:31:32 pm »
I believe that if Koei would essentially remake the Bladestorm game, formatted to the Kessen 3 storyline including elements of those strategy and war room components, it would be a pretty sweet game. I would buy that for sure. I believe they could even have China, Japan, Korea, and Mongolia as selectable factions. That would make everybody happy right?! But this is probably demanding to much of the system and limited storage media.
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September 05, 2010, 12:49:46 pm »
PLEASE KOEI PLEASE!!! STOP THIS MAGICAL S**T INGAME AND BRING IT MORE TO REALITY LIKE HISTORICLY CORRET ARMOR,WEAPONS,OFFICERS,BULDINGS AND ALL THIS....just please stop this magic or dont bring to much of it.....what i realy like ist history! the history in the game! ,,,what u done to dynasty warriors is the same....after dynasty warriors 5 it was finished....no more fun no more realisim no more gravity on eart...tzz ...just do some history in a game!
REALISIM & HISTORY IN A GAME = A GOOD GAME
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