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[bishamonten]

well i guess they'll be playable b/c here are sum pix, and aparently Kojiro and Musashi do the musou thing, Katsuie and nene!?!?! Check teh pix...

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v671/Saitou1024/Samurai%20Warriors%202%20Empires/

Oh thanks. So im pretty sure now they will be in sw2 empries story mode or not. Well i think that will motivate fans to buy it, it did me. Well Kastuie and Nene??? That is kinda of weird. I guess.

[Rigochu]

Kojiro and Katsuie don't have to be playable to do that.

While it is true, that they do not have to be playable nescesarily to do that, i have no doubt that they will be playable...... Empires games always let u play as everybody, the only question is will Kojiro and Katsuie have unique movesets...

Well, the fact that they get special musous when around other people, leads me to believe that they do have unique move-sets!!! IMO of course

[atrueg]

noooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!! dont even think that. it would trow the the whole swager of the mood the game is presenting. doing that would make it a mindless fighting frenzey. no more missions wouldnt be good. and lord if they do do that and put missons in it please dont make the missons generic like the start of the misson (destroy all enemy officers) that wouldnt be the same game im playing

[Scorpion]

That doesn't necessarily mean that Katsuie and Kojiro will be playable. >.> I agree with what LoW said though, seeing new playable characters probably will not happen.

I think that's where you are wrong, I would expect them to be playable characters in the Empire if not then that would be very disappointing for many fans. And last when added they should not be given a new weapon but they should use there generic weapon they had on SW2. I do hope Koei don't give them a new weapon since its only Empire, I rather they await SW3 before given them a weapon, and where we get to see Yasuke Kurusan also being added in SW3. 

[Rigochu]

They probably will. Their movesets in SM2 weren't generic. Well, Kojiro's wasn't....

u sure about that? I heard Katsuie had the generic spear movest, and Kojiro had the generic sword move-set....

Well anyway, check the official site. it's been updated.
At least some of the features has become more clear.

this is what is says..

-Up to 4 people with close relations can perform the Renkei Musou at the same time.
-2 of the scenarios are set during Kawanakajima (1560) and Sekigahara (1600). In total, there are 6 scenarios: 4 historicals, 1 what-if, and the last one is completely fictional; an all-you-can-conquer setting.

Also, the release date is somewhat clarified.. Late September 2006 (21-30)

this was provided by The Giant Hoeruo

[AstralDragon]

Well, we'll see what happens in regards to Katsuie and Kojiro becoming playable for Empires, but I'm not entirely confident. =/ If they do become playable, it would be fantastic, but if their not then at least I won't be too disappointed.

[Scorpion]

I still kind of rather Koei made an XL with the Xtreme Mode in it also or called something else but same type of gameplay. That I think would of been better, and we would be wondering which new four characters Koei would add into the XL game.

[Rigochu]

The Modes in Sengoku Musou 2 Empires
Posted on 22 Jul 2006

It's from an article in a Japanese entertainment website.
http://www.yodobashi.com/enjoy/more/i/56714487.html

日本全国を統一せよ！
本作のメインモードとなる「争覇演舞」では、大名家のひとつを担当し、政略や戦闘を繰り返しながら天下統一に向けて戦いを繰り広げていきます。「政略」ではシミュレーションゲームの醍醐味を、また「戦闘」ではアクションゲームの爽快感をそれぞれ楽しむことができ、戦国時代をより深く堪能できる自由度の高いゲーム展開を実現！

充実のゲームモード
任意の武将で任意の1ステージを攻略する「模擬演武」、オリジナルの武将を作成できる「新武将」、「戦国図録（ビジュアルデータベース）」、「戦国事典」などのモードも搭載し、盛りだくさんの内容となっています。

According to this article, the modes are:
争覇演舞 Souha Enbu (Souha = Struggle for Supremacy), the Main Mode of this game, aka. the Empire mode.
模擬演武 Mogi Enbu (Mogi = Simulation), the Free Mode of this game.
新武将 Shinbushou (New Officer), CAW... Well, let's hope this article is true. Because it has becoming a habit for the websites to have accidentally spoiled the info and then removed it the next day..
戦国図録 Sengoku Zuroku (Zuroku = Illustrated Book), the Visual Database
戦国事典 Sengoku Jiten, perhaps the same Encyclopedia from the original game.

Brought to you by Alex Dino, AKA BlackKite... or The Giant Hoeruo at the GameFAQs Boards.

[azn099]

There cool. In DW5E theres like over 350 and still most people have CAWs. I don't think there's gonna be 400 different movesets.

[Lord of Wei]

What's the point of having CAW if there's supposed to be 400 characters? I know they won't all be playable, but alot should be.

Well, I'm certain like in DW4 and DW5E, NPCs are playable as well. I either don't care from CAWs that much but if you are able to make about 10 - 20 CAWs, then I hope to see them in fictional mode  .

[AstralDragon]

I can't believe there is an arguement going on about abbreviations... v_v; in the Empires thread. Well, the website was updated a bit. Just new flash animation and thats about it. No tabs or anything, but I thought it was still pretty cool since Nobunaga takes up half of the page.

btw i never see that mod logged on ever.. Did he quit or something becuase it still says he owns some forums too supervise?

Iain does check up on the forum, by the way. He just come back from a haitius, so give him a break.

[Pablomagnus]

I think that the original samuray warriors was grat then the x-treme legend thing wasn't bad, ive been a regular koei player since Dynasty Warriors 2 but koei keeps lanching and relanching the same games with litle new features and although i tought i would never say this i hava grown tired of killing the same mindless guys again and again and I have the hope that after this console generation change koei upgrades their games so taht we arent killing the same idiots on dynasty warriors 2 by the same methods only at higher resolution.

Pd: Please work on cavalry units so we can see more than just  a few units of cavalry at a batle. I would also love bodyguards on horses

With hope...       Pablomagnus

[Scorpion]

Pd: Please work on cavalry units so we can see more than just  a few units of cavalry at a batle. I would also love bodyguards on horses

Don't worry about that Koei has started to get them into there games.
In the Next Gen Consoles, we should see lots of them with no lags or any types of problems.
In SW2 there are Calvaries in the game, I don't how well they fight and such but there in.

[zhou_yu]

cavalry!?sweet i'd be cool to be on the front line attacking the enime head on on a horse with your soilders behind you on horses too
i didn't like the past few dw games 'sept for dw5 but i agree koei should put a little more work in the dw series
but sw2 will change all that

[qewlkid9]

it could be possible.  Japan my be small, but there we LOTS of fuedal lords during that time period...you only hear about Shingen, Kenshin, Masamune, Nobunaga, Hideyoshi, and Ieyasu the most because they were the ones who were the more important ones, but thee were LOTS more.  In 16th century Japan, you could easily divide Japan up into at LEAST 40-50 seperate areas with their own lords/daimyos.

The reason it does not seem that way is that many smaller daimyos and clan leaders swore an oath of allegiance with more powerful ones.  This hints why you will see who families of people that served under the more important lords, heh heh.

so why dont they make 40 more characters....they did it on dynasty lol!! Dynasty Warriors has more playable characters than any other game than i have ever played. I got samurai and i was disapointed cause of the -30 characters to choose from!