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[bugg333]

Hey guys. So I want to do what Lone Wolf is talking about. I want to make my own kind of scenario, where everyone is beefed up, and everyone's castle is huge or at least formidable, where everyone has a good gate and some good defenses, good domestics, etc. Because I'm simply tired of HUGE keep with crappy gates and fences...

But it does sound like alot of work.... So i was wondering, Lonewolf, where do you live? I ask because if I were to somehow recieve your memory card with your saved scenario that you've tweaked up, I could copy it onto MY memory card, and play it from there... So if you are in California, I would like to go get it someday when your finished, or if youre not in the West Coast, we could have it sent the old fashioned way- through the mail, and I could just mail it back... That IS what the mailing system is for now a days anyways...

I'm sure Mitsurugi would like this too, but I should get first dibs since I asked first and he can go after me...

Anyways, in the meantime I suppose I'll just create alot of officers with stats according to what certain clans are in need of, so that clans may balance out...

My ULTIMATE DREAM, is to have this happen to me in NA RtP:
-Have a small clan, and be a vassal to a bigger clan. A clan with an Ambitious, Power Hungry, Cao Cao like Ruler (probably Nobunaga)
-have the bigger clan become an empire, much with thanks to my smaller clan, which will not expand
-Have the bigger clan Obtain the Majority of the land
-have my smaller clan be run by a Noble, who is a socialist kind of guy, one who is one with the masses, who cares deeply for the commonfolk class, but has respect from the samurai, and is disliked (alot) by the rich old shogunate nobles, but looked up to by the rest of the nobles, and is also looked down upon by the other daimyo for his lack of power hungry ambition, like the bigger clan's ruler (I will probably have to make a created officer to fufill this prophecy)
-have my smaller clan run a coup de' tat against the bigger clan, for the bigger clan's evil deeds done upon the people
-have the smaller clan slowly but surely gain more and more land, and more and more followers, until at least half of the land belongs to us, and the other half to the evil.

-here we will have a kessen, with this music in the background: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQUz2GTFz4U&feature=related)

And although They will then be MY "vassal", I will use the diplomacy option to take the vassalage away. why? because I can not have such a power hungry nation to be under my wing. that's bound to have trouble.

-finally have the home base of the evil enemy clan surrounded, with nothing left but a big castle, bit gates, big defenses, etc.
-have the enemy's home base be left with nothing but the still majestic- yet evil- ruler, along with some leftover old shogunate nobles, and daimyo's from the past that were conquered, that have it out for me for being virtuous. All the Samurai class will be on my side.
-I want that last home base to have an INCREDIBLE amount of troops, with a seige that will surely take multiple attempts, each of them bloody and stressful.  if not, horrifying....

And... last but not least....

in this final battle, against the evil ruler and his evil home base, I want http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaeKj8UhxMQ&feature=related THAT music to be played.

And when you thought it couldn't get any better.... I want my created officer daimyo to be the evil ruler's brother. It's THAT EPIC.

[lonewolf1218]

Bugg, please dude go back on your meds ok? I'm in pittsburgh pa. I'm good with the mem card thing. I should have a spare I could put the data on. Wish ya woulda thought about it a few mths ago, you might not like who I have working for who. In some ways this playing everybody is a pain. But it really isn't hard to get started. The game has to have some bullies, it just refuses to let everyone get along. Like I said you have to think kinda demented. And remember I havn't taken a monster castle yet. And to get to the castles you got the moat,ditch,stonewall,wall great towers maybe some keep towers and where it applies 3 of those lovely walls. I think the tower gates are 3000 iron are 4000. So ready your breakfast n' eat hearty for tonite we dine in hell. Good plan bugg I seen epic saga all over it

[bugg333]

Well once you are Done with the process let me know, so i can pm you my adress so you can mail it... It will be DOPE! and what did i say that was so funny that made you think i took meds?! Hahahahahaha

[lonewolf1218]

The brother on brother thing well all of it kinda lol. Ya know oda has a brother and you could use the nobuhide created officer. Nobukatsu is a putz so I'd go created. My web access is by my cell. It seems I can't do pms with it. Give me a few days, if I can't change that I'll try to exchange it for a better 1. Can't view alotta pages with this thing. May have to go back to a blackberry. Anyways if all fails, bold fellow that I am, I'll post my yahoo addy here. I'm not sure how much time you wanna invest in this project. I made mistakes in planning/recruiting ect. If I didn't have about 9 mths real time I'd start over.

[bugg333]

Well I'm bold too, so here's my email: bugg333@ca.rr.com

You could tell me here or there when you are done, and when you do, I'll tell ya my address on email so you can ship it over. I'll copy it, and send it back, and if you make a newer/ better version, we can repeat the process! And no hurry lonewolf, perfection takes time...

Also i'm going to start a new thread where I will be asking my civil advisers (you guys, you and mitsurugi) about the right policies to undergo, in my new game on NA RtP where I will play on hard mode, as a mediocre clan, in what will probably be a slow campaign for me.

[lonewolf1218]

bugg..me spiritwolf1218@yahoo.com Also do the facebook thing my real name is tom barker. I heard there was some kinda group there maybe it samurai archieves. So ya I'll load that n' a few other games on a card. Play them a bit if you want critique them as well. I'll put this mega game my shimazu n' suzuki game. The shimazu was my first then the suzuki. They kinda represent my expanding experience of the game. I also feel they set the foundation for how I now build n' play. The shimasu just are too much to be stoped I feel so I stoped playing. 38 fiefs 200000+ troops in 7 years. I went to far to fast.  No rush to return the card it'll be a spare

[bugg333]

Alright i look foreward to it. Ill add you on facebook

[Mitsurugi]

Man that sounds pretty insane but i will do it the old fashioned way of me actually playing it to get to that point, i know i have a long way but as soon as i get a ps2 it's all good

[lonewolf1218]

mits if ya want mail bugg a card. Honestly starting fresh might be best as I told bugg. Try as I might to not make mistakes, I did. I realized instead of going as hard as I did trying to get castles up, I should have gone all argro. There would be a lot more towers up. Many officers would be higher in deeds, and probably skills. I might not have this issue of not being able to use officers of lower intell. They get confused to easy against castles or the upgraded forts you get with high forgien. The game has gotten real mad and now no poets show up, many ronin are not showing up even several years after thier diamyo was beaten. And as I mentioned the game MUST have some bullies. The game trying to have the satomi attack everyone thier not allied to is getting old. They don't have the skilled officers to be taking more fiefs but the game just won't stop. Or imagawa attacking oda. He has 1/4 the troops 1/8 the quality officers. Yet if I don't play him every turn he attacks losing very very badly.

[Mitsurugi]

my plan on t hat would be to divided into four major clans having them defeat all the others so their are only four remaining after that ally them and start building like crazy,


Example:
North = Asakura or Azai or even the Uesugi
South = Oda, Hojo or the Tokugawa
West = Shimazu, Mori, Otomo
East = Date, Uesugi, or maybe even the Takeda or the Hojo

I don't know thats my opinion on how i would play it

[lonewolf1218]

ok overview. I'm planning on oda to win. I see no way any diamyo could beat him. To many quality cc's and a cadre of real officers almost impossibe to beat or bribe away. Miyoshi is my intended "regent". Oda can't take any more fiefs, till miyoshi hits 16. He is 4 away from that n' oda has 15. Takeda has 9 uesugi 5 (6 this turn) shimazu have 6. Most of the rest is diamyo's controling 4 fiefs. The jinbo mori imagawa chosokabe have 4 each and won't take more. Date have 4 and will get more. I see them n' the nambu beating on each other for awhile. I havn't decided what to do with ouchi otomo or a few other clans. The takeda uesugi shimazu mori ect ect really don't have enough quality help. Personally I wouldn't touch the azai or asukura. Especially if you plan on big castles. Maybe cause the ikko's to lose isiyamami rebuild in oyama. The hojo are a decent choice. Odawara is a decent fief. Culture/forgien do well. I know mits likes the tozawa n kakizaki. Who is picked depends on when you play.

[Mitsurugi]

really feel like choosing the Kakizaki man in my opinion they are bad---. never lost their lands but never expanded i look at that by visualizing Suehiro as a calm daimyo content with what he has

[lonewolf1218]

thats kinda how I feel about suzuki. To my knowledge he never lost his lands and when you see him almost surrounded by miyoshi in the early years, and oda later on. Like kakizaki his officers aren't very good early on. He has much lower pol skill but much greater led. He is a beast on the battlefield with 2000 guns n a decent title. I had him at 97 I think +8 title regent rank after 5 yrs, I believe. Hitting anybody with 2000 guns with that led is nasty. He isn't worth a  developing nor are his help. But he can be worked up. He has a 60 pol working now for oda. A +6 rank on and 4 turns left he might make 70 by yrs end. Does ok as a dragoon guy too.

[Mitsurugi]

yeah i mean Suehiro has no good officers except for his grandson who dies at an early age, and Hanjo who lives for some time until he is killed by Suehiro's eldest son

[lonewolf1218]

ok suzuki has a 92 led in 82 no title shigehide has a 94 AND they usually have kennyo n' his kid. So there (I'm sticking out my tongue at you).  Suzuki died/commited sucide in 85. Again its play ya want or like. Thought about a kakizaki game ohh 1/2 dozen sons. A few other of my normal famiies. Even with some so so cc's I see the nambu gone in 2 yrs. The anto my vassel and me lord of blizzard land.