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« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2010, 07:07:08 am »
This opens up an entire sub-genre of rivals, but men competing to take the reigns of a force that has just lost it's faction leader:

Yuan Tan, Yuan Xi, and Yuan Shang

Liu Qi and Liu Cong/Zong

Cao Shuang and Sima Yi

Li Jue and Guo Si (with Lu Bu, Wang Yun, Niu Fu, and Fan Chou thrown in there too)
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« Reply #31 on: December 16, 2010, 08:18:53 am »
He Jin and the Eunuchs can go up there also.
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« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2011, 09:33:13 am »
Zhou Yu vs Sun Quan
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« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2011, 09:56:12 am »
That's a strange one. Are you sure you understand the word rivalry? It means enemies who compete with each other. I think Zhou Yu and Sun Quan were more allies than rivals.
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« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2011, 10:04:22 am »
After Ce died, I believe they got into internal rivalry. Who was Quan that time ?
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« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2011, 11:06:30 am »
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If Zhou Yu was ever a threat or a rival to Quan, he would have been completely and utterly neutered fast, either by Lady Wu or by Quan himself later.
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« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2011, 10:05:39 am »
Yuan Shao and Cao Cao. I love the idea of childhood friends becoming great rivals, also i believe there was respect between the two considering Cao Cao was in favor of Yuan leading the allied forces during the conflict with Dong.
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« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2011, 06:36:47 pm »
Quote from: Wen Chou on November 15, 2010, 04:32:37 am
Lu Bu vs Dong Zhou

I don't think I'd consider this a rivalry since Dong Zhuo didn't think that Lu Bu was his rival in any fashion and in order for there to be a rivalry both sides have to aknowledge its existance.  Plus didn't Diao Chan dislike Dong Zhuo and Lu Bu knew this, thus Lu Bu knew he wasn't in contention with Dong Zhuo and knew Diao Chan was truly his all along.


Along the note of aknowledging the existence of the rivalry did Zhuge Liang not even think there was a rivalry between him and Zhou Yu or Sima Yi?

and next to Zhuge Liang's rivalry I believe the greatest rivalry existed between Gan Ning and Ling Tong.
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« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2011, 07:45:54 pm »
Zhuge and Zhou Yu's rivalry is largely just the novel's invention.

If anything, I'd say Zhou Yu and Liu Bei had a rivalry, if any.. followed closely by Sun Quan and Liu Bei.

The best "rivalry" though, in my opinion is Yang Hu vs Lu Kang.  I've always found the best rivalries involve a friendship of sorts, like Vegeta and Goku. Wink
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« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2011, 08:35:14 pm »
I think this match up might classify as a rivaly, though I'm not entirely sure...

Zhen Luo and Guo Nuwang?
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« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2011, 09:50:40 am »
Quote from: Paige on January 09, 2011, 08:35:14 pm
I think this match up might classify as a rivaly, though I'm not entirely sure...

Zhen Luo and Guo Nuwang?

I've never heard of either of these two.  who were they and what was the rivalry about?
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« Reply #41 on: January 10, 2011, 10:55:57 am »
Quote from: Gongsun Zan on January 10, 2011, 09:50:40 am
I've never heard of either of these two.  who were they and what was the rivalry about?

Also known as Zhen Ji and Empress Guo, rivalry was for Cao Pi though there were two other ladies involved.
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« Reply #42 on: January 10, 2011, 12:20:37 pm »
How about Fei Yi vs Jiang Wei? Jiang Wei's militaristic view vs Fei Yi's economic view?
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« Reply #43 on: January 13, 2011, 10:47:07 pm »
Quote from: GuanXing-Shu on January 10, 2011, 12:20:37 pm
How about Fei Yi vs Jiang Wei? Jiang Wei's militaristic view vs Fei Yi's economic view?

They maybe had different view angles, but to be a rival, I think no...Never heard both of them had crash or got into arguments.

I would say Jiang Wei vs Huang Hao...or maybe not rival....but enemy.
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« Reply #44 on: January 14, 2011, 04:09:20 am »
Only at the end, they were mostly allies though
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