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[Nazshiaakk]

i think Koei may be playing one of its marketing games. by releasing SW3 on the Wii, they open the game to a new audience that possibly are curious and will appreciate a new type of game for the system (as someone earlier said, Wii games seem to be limited).

I'm also sure Koei is aware that the old SW audience, that may or may not have a Wii, want SW3 on next gen platforms as well. Who knows? Koei might drop the Wii exclusive title and release the game for PS3 and Xbox360 later with a few new features. Then the fans who didn't have a Wii would have waited long and be more anxious to buy it. This may even get some owners of both platforms, Wii and PS3/Xbox, to buy the game twice just for the new features on the other disc.

May or may not happen. I hope it does come out for PS3/Xbox, because I am not willing to buy a Wii. =)

[SakonDun22]

i think if it wasnt justfor wii itwould be a good idea

QFT
No problems with multiplatform games. But lets be serious  majority of their fan base is on 360/pS3. They just drop bird  on us. We(Ps3/360 owners) deserve more Koei. And their trying to take the easy way out and dev from that mediocre console, not talking hardware sales.

Worst Idea ever. Just another way for the be lazy and hold SW progression back.

[Mitsurugi]

have you ever thought about Koei not selling anymore of their games to the States or Europe and just keeping it over in Asia (talking about every game series)

[karl_eichholtz_13]

i gotta say, bringing the Sw series to the Wii is pretty clever.

[Dragon Master]

Well someone at Koei thought it was a good idea to take Samurai Warriors to Wii.  It appears like Koei is trying to reach out and possibly expand its products to the Wii console.  However, most of the Koei hardcore Samurai Warriors fans are on PS3/Xbox 360 respectively.

I think Koei was testing the Wii market.  However, if Samurai Warriors 3 released on Xbox 360/PS3, Koei would make a LOT more money.  I and most Koei hardcore fans would pick up a copy of Samurai Warriors 3 day one of it being released for Xbox 360/PS3.  Were Wii owners anticipating the release of SW3?  I don't think so.  I think Wii owners (toddlers and children under 10) are still trying to figure out who the heck Ieyasu Tokugawa, Tadakatsu Honda, and Yukimura Sanada are.

However, we Xbox 360/PS3 fans 'know' who they are.  We PS3/Xbox 360 fans go back as far as Honda's Tombo-giri spear.  We appreciate and understand the series.  We Xbox 360/PS3 fans deserve a Samurai Warriors 3 game.  Fully loaded with playable charcaters like Masanori Fukushima, Naomasa Ii, Kiyomasa Kato, Toshiie Maeda, Josui (Kanbei) Kuroda, Musashi, and Kojiro Sasaki.

Was it a good idea for them to take Samurai Warriors to Wii?  I don't think so.  We Xbox 360/PS3 owners (teens/adults/money spenders) need more Koei.  We need more Dynasty Warriors.  We need more turned based strategy games (where are they on PS3/Xbox 360?).  I mean can we even get a Romance of the 3 Kingdoms or Nobunaga's Ambition on the PS3/Xbox 360?  I would even be happy with a throw-back version.  

And lastly, we PS3/Xbox 360 owners need more Samurai Warriors/Empires.  Please Koei. Keep them coming.

[alilsketchy]

have you ever thought about Koei not selling anymore of their games to the States or Europe and just keeping it over in Asia (talking about every game series)

I wouldn't be surprised. The majority of Western audiences don't like both games for various reasons.

Well, I guess I would have to immigrate to Japan then. lol

[Dragon Master]

I wouldn't be surprised. The majority of Western audiences don't like both games for various reasons.

Well, I guess I would have to immigrate to Japan then. lol

Really.  The Western audiences don't like Koei games??? You are wrong here.  I have been playing Koei games since the mid 1990's on the SNES.  I know a LOT of Westerners as well who love Koei games (Romance of the 3 Kingdoms/SW/DW/NA).

I strongly disagree with your post.  If there were not a Western demand, Koei would of stopped selling to the Western market back in the 1990's.  Obviously, there is a strong Western market that plays Koei games.  That's why RTK, NA, and DW have been coming out ever since.

 

[Dragon Master]

have you ever thought about Koei not selling anymore of their games to the States or Europe and just keeping it over in Asia (talking about every game series)

We all hope that never happens!

[alilsketchy]

Really.  The Western audiences don't like Koei games??? You are wrong here.  I have been playing Koei games since the mid 1990's on the SNES.  I know a LOT of Westerners as well who love Koei games (Romance of the 3 Kingdoms/SW/DW/NA).

I strongly disagree with your post.  If there were not a Western demand, Koei would of stopped selling to the Western market back in the 1990's.  Obviously, there is a strong Western market that plays Koei games.  That's why they have been coming out ever since.

 

You do, but Gamespot and X-Play doesn't.

[jinkojirodragonmiyamoto]

You do, but Gamespot and X-Play doesn't.

alilsketchy is dead on correct. Not to mention IGN has seemingly joined the "Diss Koei's games wagon". Dragon Master? You may know a good number of people that love Koei's games. No matter what the game is, in the end, it always seems to get piss-poor reviews. Whenever Koei's games get reviewed, it doesn't get reviewed the right way. Meaning both the positives, and the negatives. Just the negatives seem to be thrown out there, when in fact there are good things to say about Koei's games.

You knowing a good or even ALOT of people, would only amount to what? No more than Eight Percent of Koei's Western Sales. This is mainly because of (Again) the piss-poor reviews.

You see, the problem is this: Most gamers, (Who obviously lack the neccessary skills) are too scared to actually play any of Koei's games. Instead, they just wait until X-Play, IGN, Gamespot, or whoever to review it, then they start saying things like, "OH, any game that is made by Koei, is absolute Garbage, because X-Play, or IGN, or Gamespot said so" instead of learning the art of renting games from Block Buster, Gamefly, Hollywood Video, or where ever you can rent games from, so they can judge the games themselves.

Personally, if none of them can review Koei's games the right way, then I'd rather them not review Koei's games at all, then to continue to make a mockery of them, and giving them bogus and uneducated Scores / Reviews.

[Dynasty Guy]

Based on what I've seen of the game it looks like the gameplay style is still very similar to the previous titles. I think they made it exclusive because the Wii is technically a weaker system (mostly in terms of memory capacity and graphics capability) then the PS3 or Xbox360. Since it did not receive the major overhaul that Dynasty Warriors did with DW6 it wouldn't be making full use of the capabilities of the PS3 or Xbox360, so why bother?

This is pure speculation from me as I have not actually played SW3 and have only seen a few videos of it on youtube.

[Scorpion]

It was a good idea to have it on Wii, but to make exclusive to Wii was an awful idea 

[SteelDragon]

It was a good idea to have it on Wii, but to make exclusive to Wii was an awful idea 

WAIT FOR IT!

[alilsketchy]

alilsketchy is dead on correct. Not to mention IGN has seemingly joined the "Diss Koei's games wagon". Dragon Master? You may know a good number of people that love Koei's games. No matter what the game is, in the end, it always seems to get piss-poor reviews. Whenever Koei's games get reviewed, it doesn't get reviewed the right way. Meaning both the positives, and the negatives. Just the negatives seem to be thrown out there, when in fact there are good things to say about Koei's games.

You knowing a good or even ALOT of people, would only amount to what? No more than Eight Percent of Koei's Western Sales. This is mainly because of (Again) the piss-poor reviews.

You see, the problem is this: Most gamers, (Who obviously lack the neccessary skills) are too scared to actually play any of Koei's games. Instead, they just wait until X-Play, IGN, Gamespot, or whoever to review it, then they start saying things like, "OH, any game that is made by Koei, is absolute Garbage, because X-Play, or IGN, or Gamespot said so" instead of learning the art of renting games from Block Buster, Gamefly, Hollywood Video, or where ever you can rent games from, so they can judge the games themselves.

Personally, if none of them can review Koei's games the right way, then I'd rather them not review Koei's games at all, then to continue to make a mockery of them, and giving them bogus and uneducated Scores / Reviews.

Amen to that!! IGN, X-Play, and Gamespot are complete a**holes of their reviewing of games. Oh sure, they give good reviews to games like Ninja Gaiden (blood, gore, and women. No disrespect, because I do like Tecmo, and the DOA series.), God of War (blood, violence, gore, and especially, nudity), but other games they are VERY picky with.

Another factor is that they immediately assume things. For example, "Okay, it's a 2d fighting game with blood and gore. It's a MORTAL KOMBAT RIPOFF!!!", and even "It's a 3d hand to hand fighting game. It's a TEKKEN RIPOFF!!!" Of all 3d games they say "Tekken", and not "Virtua Fighter". SMH lol

Ironically, they even hate when 2d things go 3d (Mortal Kombat games after Trilogy, Street Fighter EX series (Honestly out beats many SF games, with the exception of 2 and 3: 3rd strike), KOF: Maximum Impact (even though X-Play gave the second one quite a good review). I personally think that saying something like that is utterly ridiculous.

That's pretty much why many games from the PS and earlier on have been given bad reviews. In this case, the "repetitiveness" is what they harshly comment on, but that's the problem. It's based on history, and novels, so there is not much they can do as far as the story goes, except add some twists and turns. So the actual thing KOEI can improve on is gameplay.

Another thing is that it's based on Asian history, which is why the Eastern audience is Koei's core audience, because they know more about it. I bet you if they made a game based on "Greek Mythologies", or "Revolutionary War", or "World War 1 or 2" (I think that would be one boring game), Western audiences would accept the game, because it's based on Western history.

This is clearly off-topic to the actual thread. lol

[Dragon Master]

Amen to that!! IGN, X-Play, and Gamespot are complete a**holes of their reviewing of games. Oh sure, they give good reviews to games like Ninja Gaiden (blood, gore, and women. No disrespect, because I do like Tecmo, and the DOA series.), God of War (blood, violence, gore, and especially, nudity), but other games they are VERY picky with.

Hi alilsketchy.  First I do not take Gamespot or IGN serious.  Their reviews are not facts and are often off.  I agree it seems like their reviewers like FPS games (Halo, COD) and always gives them high reviews.  Heck even Alan Wake and a few other suspect games have got awesome reviews from them.  This just causes Gamespot and IGN to lose their credibility among hardcore gamers.  I also agree that they are totally biased against Koei.  For whatever reason and I think it is wrong and unfair.

X-Play...people still watch this???  Anyway, I do not take any of these review sites seriously until they start giving Koei their credit that is due.  I own some great games but NONE of them offers nearly half of the replay value that Koei does.  Thanks to Empires, Koei's replay value is never ending in their DW/SW series as well.  So let the sheep (fanboys/girls) keep following these bogus website reviews.  As Koei continues to put out hits, eventually the sheep will see the truth.

To stay on topic here, even though Samurai Warriors went to Wii, Koei still has HUGE potential on the Xbox 360/PS3 platforms.  A couple bogus websites (Gamespot, IGN) does not represent the true opinions of hardcore (true gamers) out in the West.