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[bugg333]

It can be very annoying if your trying to make the story play out, without going for conquest. ...We really need to make guides for that. Cuz whenever i wait for the defeat of Lu Bu, and all that, it seems like liu bei NEVER ends up in the city under Liu Biao, eventually for Chi Bi, and i have yet to see the clash between Meng Huo and Shu.. so we need to figure out how many days it takes of waiting....

[bugg333]

no news on this yet and it's really bugging me

[scholar]

no news on this yet and it's really bugging me

I could have sworn I posted here...

History won't progress as normal based on the simple fact that there is a player and that player will change things. 184 may become a Guan Du like scenario, but afterwords it won't flow. Mainly because too many things have been changed or altered. Say on the 184 scenario, Liu Bei fails to take Bei Hai, or anywhere for that matter. If all four officers are not in He Jin's force by the time the officers get distributed, Liu Bei's force ceases to exist and will never exist. As far as events go, Lu Bu takes Pu Yang. occasionally Yuan Shu will be pushed back and Zhang Xiu takes wan but, that's only occasionally.

Chi Bi is a pain in terms of historical play-through. Mainly because there is no play through. Liu Bei get's Zhuge, and Liu Bei dies. The entire game depends on Cao Cao being an idiot for a year. Which, he rarely is. Afterwords it's the flow that basically has him bouncing around Jing, sometimes Cao Cao will attack him right as he moves in with no Chi Bi taking place. etc. etc.

Others aren't so bad, so long as you don't do something that deliberately changes history.

[bugg333]

will playing as a cc in a free city who does nothing but wait make it better?

is it possible to play one of the later scenarios out until jin makes shu and wu surrender?


thanks for replying btw scholar

[scholar]

I'm not entirely certain. Sometimes, since the AI varies, the creation of a force may or may not exist. If some stray faction takes Wu, or Jian Ye than Wang Lang, Yan Baihu, and Liu Yao will never become rulers.

I know it's possible to play up to the fall of Shu, not certain about Wu.

You're welcome.

[Rivus]

One thing I have always wanted to do is watch the game play through all the events starting from the very beginning. I don't think its possible though.

[He Xing]

i have found that if there are to many created officers in one force or any force for that matter that is important to the scenario the whole scenario will be greatly altered.

[bugg333]

I was frusterated when i made this thread. i had played as cao cao from the first scenario, and played perfectly through the story all the way through guan du and lu bu's parts, but STUPID LIU BEI didn't end up in Xin Ye with liu biao.
and it took me about 28 hours of gameplay to get to that point

[He Xing]

Had Liu Biao taken Xin Ye. Also was Kong Zhou defeated yet. Also you must totally destroy the house of Yuan in the north before master Liu Bei can move to Xin Ye.

[Zhao Zhu]

How do i get Yuan Shao to NOT attack Zhang Yan so Gongsun Zan dies a Yi Jing so i can progess to Guan Du events, while i'm serving Sun Ce.

[scholar]

How do i get Yuan Shao to NOT attack Zhang Yan so Gongsun Zan dies a Yi Jing so i can progess to Guan Du events, while i'm serving Sun Ce.

Resign and foster an alliance between the two, or at the very least make the relations good enough to avoid.

[Zhao Zhu]

And how to get Sun Ce's death event. Based off infomation i know on the event i'll need Sun Ce, Xu Gong, Sun Quan And possibly Cheng Pu, and Zhou Yu.