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[Homers lament]

Sorry, I meant to say twin brother. That should clear it up a bit more.

Helenus!

[Ajax]

It seems I lost episodes here......... I made the topic for those who Don't know still  Let's see if you know this.......

Who was the daughter of Agamemnon,what happened to her (and why) and how they tricked her?

It is really easy

Have fun

this topic should named Illiad and etc trivia

Didn't seem like a lot were interested, so we a having fun. Join in a little more often and you might learn something. 

New question: I am an ugly man who likes to berate others better than myself. Unfortunately, the last time I did this I was punched in the face so hard it killed me.  Who am I? Who killed me? Finally, who is my friend that was angered by my death?

[Homers lament]

Didn't seem like a lot were interested, so we a having fun. Join in a little more often and you might learn something. 

New question: I am an ugly man who likes to berate others better than myself. Unfortunately, the last time I did this I was punched in the face so hard it killed me.  Who am I? Who killed me? Finally, who is my friend that was angered by my death?

You are Thersites!!, Achilles smashed your face in. Well, he wasn't really your friend, but a distant kinsman. Diomedes.

Okay, one hero in the legend ate "stuff and later died". Who was he? (the filling of his mouth with dung wasn't the reason he died, but it didn't help. LOL!) Hint, this took place not during the battle, but at a funeral.

[yellow turban]

guys slow down a little.......
you are doing a competition about who knows more for a poem.

 Time for TRUE history.What were the people of that age (age of Troyan war) doing to their dead?

Which is the reason that the greek attacked  troyans?

When did these stories happen?


PLZ be less competitive and less nasty

have fun 

[Yue Fei]

Helenus!

That's right, but that's only half the question. What feature did he have that made him superior to Cassandra?

[Homers lament]

That's right, but that's only half the question. What feature did he have that made him superior to Cassandra?

Okay Yue Fei! You finally got me stumped. I just can't remember. So let me have it!    Could it have been the fact that Cassandra seemed to never be listened to, while her brother got all the respect?


@ Yellow Turban: No one has been nasty and we are having a good time, so what is your problem?

[Ajax]

You are Thersites!!, Achilles smashed your face in. Well, he wasn't really your friend, but a distant kinsman. Diomedes.

Correct!

Okay, one hero in the legend ate "stuff and later died". Who was he? (the filling of his mouth with dung wasn't the reason he died, but it didn't help. LOL!) Hint, this took place not during the battle, but at a funeral.

I don't really know.  Was it in The Iliad?

guys slow down a little.......
you are doing a competition about who knows more for a poem.

We are not having a competition. We are asking questions and answering them.

 

Time for TRUE history.What were the people of that age (age of Troyan war) doing to their dead?

Which is the reason that the greek attacked  troyans?

When did these stories happen?

1) They burn their dead. Heroes get a funeral pyre and have 2 coins put over their eyes for the boatman.

2) The reason they attacked was because Paris committed a major crime in stealing Menelaus' gold, wife, and killing someone while being a guest in Menelaus' house.

3) The story started around 800 b.c. The war may have taken place in the 13th or 12th century. They did find ruins in Salamis that they believe belonged to Ajax the great. They believe the palace has been abandonded since the period of time just after the Trojan War which means if it was Ajax's palace then he really did die during the war.

PLZ be less competitive and less nasty

have fun 

Who was nasty?

[yellow turban]

1) They burn their dead. Heroes get a funeral pyre and have 2 coins put over their eyes for the boatman.

2) The reason they attacked was because Paris committed a major crime in stealing Menelaus' gold, wife, and killing someone while being a guest in Menelaus' house.

3) The story started around 800 

historicaly wrong but  correct concerning the poem

nasty, I used wrong word

[Yue Fei]

Okay Yue Fei! You finally got me stumped. I just can't remember. So let me have it!    Could it have been the fact that Cassandra seemed to never be listened to, while her brother got all the respect?

Correct! Cassandra's prophecies were all true but nobody ever listened to her, while Helenus' prophecies were also always true, and people listened to him.

[Ajax]

historicaly wrong but  correct concerning the poem

nasty, I used wrong word

What is historically wrong?

Also, didn't you make this thread to be questions about Homer's poem? 

[Yue Fei]

historicaly wrong but  correct concerning the poem

nasty, I used wrong word

Being that the Trojan war is commonly believed to take place in the 11th Century BC, and the fact that the Greeks cremated their dead around this time, no it's not incorrect in regards to history. Though coins weren't placed on the eyes. Normally it was only one coin (an obolus or danake) and it was placed either in or on the mouth of the person.

It was caused because of the want to control the Bosphorus, which was the only water route between the Aegean and the Black Sea. Control of it brought great wealth.

And as I mentioned in my first paragraph, it would've taken place around the 11th century BC.

[Homers lament]

Ajax, my hints were vague. This hero fell down face first in a pile of dung. He spat some out. Later he dies in the Illiad. The former happens during time of a funeral. The latter happens I believe after one also. (that is why I said ate stuff and later died.)

New Hint -He was considered one of the great Argive Heroes.

@ Yue Fei: Super information! Thanks.

[Ajax]

Being that the Trojan war is commonly believed to take place in the 11th Century BC, and the fact that the Greeks cremated their dead around this time, no it's not incorrect in regards to history. Though coins weren't placed on the eyes. Normally it was only one coin (an obolus or danake) and it was placed either in or on the mouth of the person.

It was caused because of the want to control the Bosphorus, which was the only water route between the Aegean and the Black Sea. Control of it brought great wealth.

And as I mentioned in my first paragraph, it would've taken place around the 11th century BC.

I've seen anywhere from the 14th-10th century. Historians 

If the war really happened, I would be inclined to agree with what Yue Fei posted as the reason the war began. There is little chance that a huge war was started over 3 little things such as what started the war in the Iliad.

Ajax, my hints were vague. This hero fell down face first in a pile of dung. He spat some out. Later he dies in the Illiad. The former happens during time of a funeral. The latter happens I believe after one also. (that is why I said ate stuff and later died.)

New Hint -He was considered one of the great Argive Heroes.

@ Yue Fei: Super information! Thanks.

Mhmm... I can't believe you picked Ajax to make fun of. That really hurts. 

[Homers lament]

@ Ajax:   Poor Ajax the Great. Seems no matter what he did, the gods just didn't give him any respect. I thought you'd figure it out. Props to you! 

If I remember right Athene tripped him so he didn't win the foot race. He fell in a pile of goo face first, but still came up spitting and got second place. Poor guy felt so dissed he finally killed himself. Great hero, but man did he have problems. I can understand him, since I'm manic-depressive myself. Seemed the gods just didn't like him even though he was most likely the strongest and best warrior of the Argives second only to Achilles.

[yellow turban]

new question :What happened to Ajax's (Aias Telamonius)  brother after his suicide?

P.S: I do not ask it tease you Ajax

Have fun

P.S2:the topic is both historical and about ancient greek poems